I remember when he was born and I couldn’st hear anything, and they took him away [clears throat] -because I’m, I was, I, you could feel the sensation of them pulling, pulling about my stomach. And after a couple of minutes – and obviously you don’st know what they’sre doing down there – but I just remember saying, I haven’st heard him cry. And one of them just shouted, Oh, don’st worry, he’s fine. But they’sd taken him off. He had to be revived. He was very blue.

So he’sd already gone at that point?

He, well, he’sd gone over to the other side of the room where they revive them, sort of there. And I said to my husband, Look, just go over and check that he’s OK. Because even then I couldn’st hear him crying, and it wasn’st, he was doing this like whimpering sound. It wasn’st a proper hearty cry, and it was just awful, it was awful. And then my husband went over, had a look at him, came back and he said, Look, he’s fine, they’sre just sort of getting him ventilated and everything now. And then they, they brought him over. As they were walking out with him to take him, put him into the incubator, they just walked past me with him. And he looked – I sort of said, Can I have a quick look? and they just sort of put him down. I couldn’st hold him or anything, but they just showed me him, his head, and he, it was just this mass of black hair and it was just, it was wonderful. Most amazing thing ever. And then they took him off and. They took a photograph of him and they bring it up to you, because obviously I’sd had a caesarean so I couldn’st go straight down.

And I remember my sister-in-law coming up with a bag of clothes, because obviously we weren’st expecting to be there, and she sort of looked in and she said, she says to this day, I always wondered what I was going to find, with you, when I saw you. But she said, The first thing that I – because everyone was saying, Oh my God, how’s she going to be? She’s going to reject him and she’s not going to want him. And she’s so, going to be depressed or whatever. And she said, I always remember looking into the room and saying, I’m not staying I’m just dropping off your bag of clothes’s and she said, and I just looked around and said, He’s just the most beautiful thing – and she knew.

Well, I’sd always had, because they check your protein and your blood pressure and everything throughout the pregnancy, I mean, I’m quite lucky that I’sve got a normally low blood pressure. Well, I’m told I’m quite lucky that I’sve got that, anyway. But around about 30 weeks I started swelling. My legs and my feet swelled and I just started feeling even more generally unwell than I had done the whole of the pregnancy. And they, they, I’sd had protein in my urine pretty much for about ten or eleven weeks before that. And I remember going in one day for a check-up, seeing the obstetrician, and him saying, Oh, we’sre going to have to take you in. And I said, Why? and they said, Well, your blood pressure’s shot up, you’sve got protein in your urine and we think you’sre getting this condition called pre-eclampsia, which I’sd heard of but not really taken much notice of, because I thought, there’s no way, again, that it can happen to me. So they brought me in, and it’s really funny because I, I felt fine. I felt OK. But the minute that they again, this could be psychological, I don’st know – the minute they got me into the ward, the blood pressure really did start shooting up, and I noticed the difference. But they told me things like you get black spots in front of your eyes, and I had had that, but not taken any notice of it. Blinding flashes and really severe headaches, but I just thought it was all part of it. I mean, I’m very good at, if I know that I’sve got something or there’s a chance that I’sve got something, I will go out, all out and read, read up about it. And although I’sd heard of pre-eclampsia I’sd never, never thought that it would happen.