Judith

Age at interview: 36
Brief Outline: Judith, 36, gave up smoking when she was 34. Judith is White Scottish, works as a communications manager and lives by herself. She gave up smoking after being diagnosed with emphysema. Judith started smoking at 14-15. She soon started smoking cannabis to cope with her mental health problems. She always thought she had a ‘smoker’s cough’ but was later diagnosed with emphysema. It was incredibly hard for Judith to stop smoking, but she managed it with the support of a smoking cessation group.
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Judith started smoking when she was 14-15 and she finally gave up when she was 34 after many attempts. She was also a heavy cannabis smoker during this time. She says she ‘self-medicated’ for mental health issues during this time. When she was a child, she found a cigarette on the path and tried it in her bathroom and coughed. She says she smoked at school because it was ‘slightly risqué’ and looked cool. She says she felt that she wasn’t quite the ‘same’ as her immediate family, as they were more academic and she was into PE and sports, so smoking became a marker of difference. Eventually she told her parents she smoked, and they felt that it might have stopped her going ‘over the edge’ (with regards to her mental health problems) but now looking back she thinks that it was a ‘false coping mechanism’.
Judith never thought she would be able to give up, and finally began to consider it when she was diagnosed with emphysema when she was 32. Judith says she was actually losing consciousness slightly when coughing and realised there was a problem. The first time she tried to give up she had a major panic attack, and doctors were giving her sedatives to help her stop smoking. Her hospital consultant shocked her by not only telling her that she wouldn’t be able to give up but also that he could ‘essentially book her a bed in the ward for three years’ time’. Judith said she was looking to others to make her stop, and wanted other people to ‘sort her out’. She started looking at rehab clinics for drugs because for Judith smoking was ‘as devastating as a heroin addiction’: she wanted to stop it ‘but just didn’t know how she was going to stop’. Then, 18 months later, she got to the point where she could think about actually doing it. She stopped cannabis with the help of ‘Crew’, although now she says she doesn’t know how. This success gave her the ‘confidence’ and ‘self-belief’ to start thinking about stopping smoking. She didn’t tell anybody about it as she didn’t want to ‘jinx’ it. She went ‘covertly’ to a smoking cessation group, and although she had gone in the past she felt she was in the right ‘head space’ for it now. She says that she started one-to-one support as she didn’t want the ‘pressure of groups’. She realised a few facts about nicotine addiction that helped her. She set herself a date of 16th February 2010 with the help of the smoking cessation worker. She says it was really helpful that public places were non-smoking. Now looking back she thinks that so much of it is habit rather than addiction. She says she is now ‘so chilled out’ because she doesn’t have to plan her cigarettes. Once she had got over the first day or two she felt a huge sense of achievement. She had lots of products from the smoking cessation group: she used a cut piece of straw to suck through, to just slow her breathing down. She didn’t use the patches much as she didn’t want ‘another psychological thing’ to get over. She now works as an ‘ambassador’ for the smoking cessation group, and has just done some training for ASH Scotland. She says that the group was ‘there’ when she needed it. This in itself is ‘beyond’ what she thought she would ‘do in her life’. She is really proud of herself even though she is a big advocate of smokers’ rights and doesn’t think it’s fair to demonize what they are doing.
Judith is now going to the gym, and has increased her lung function slightly. She has stopped her condition getting worse and is managing it. She now takes more pride in her appearance, in her house and ‘so many different things’. She has had mixed interactions with health professionals since she gave up, and feels that many people put everything down to smoking. She thought that one doctor didn’t give her any credit for giving up smoking. Judith feels that when she was suffering with mental health problems she ‘wasn’t ready to do anything like stopping smoking’. She went to anxiety management courses and felt she needed this ‘almost terminal’ diagnosis to contemplate giving up smoking. She talks about smoking Silk Cut as she thought they were ‘better’. She tried smoking roll ups as they were ‘more hassle’ and therefore she would give up more easily. Now Judith says she has better colour, no cough, no anxiety, and her teeth have also improved, as have her taste buds. Immediately after stopping she felt worse than before, but now she feels great. She now judges that she is listened to more seriously as a non-smoker when she goes for treatment to hospital. She feels that giving up both cannabis and cigarettes at once is a ‘double hurdle’ but does think it’s a personal thing. Now she feels very happy and is really pleased with the place she has got to with her physical and her mental health.
Judith never thought she would be able to give up, and finally began to consider it when she was diagnosed with emphysema when she was 32. Judith says she was actually losing consciousness slightly when coughing and realised there was a problem. The first time she tried to give up she had a major panic attack, and doctors were giving her sedatives to help her stop smoking. Her hospital consultant shocked her by not only telling her that she wouldn’t be able to give up but also that he could ‘essentially book her a bed in the ward for three years’ time’. Judith said she was looking to others to make her stop, and wanted other people to ‘sort her out’. She started looking at rehab clinics for drugs because for Judith smoking was ‘as devastating as a heroin addiction’: she wanted to stop it ‘but just didn’t know how she was going to stop’. Then, 18 months later, she got to the point where she could think about actually doing it. She stopped cannabis with the help of ‘Crew’, although now she says she doesn’t know how. This success gave her the ‘confidence’ and ‘self-belief’ to start thinking about stopping smoking. She didn’t tell anybody about it as she didn’t want to ‘jinx’ it. She went ‘covertly’ to a smoking cessation group, and although she had gone in the past she felt she was in the right ‘head space’ for it now. She says that she started one-to-one support as she didn’t want the ‘pressure of groups’. She realised a few facts about nicotine addiction that helped her. She set herself a date of 16th February 2010 with the help of the smoking cessation worker. She says it was really helpful that public places were non-smoking. Now looking back she thinks that so much of it is habit rather than addiction. She says she is now ‘so chilled out’ because she doesn’t have to plan her cigarettes. Once she had got over the first day or two she felt a huge sense of achievement. She had lots of products from the smoking cessation group: she used a cut piece of straw to suck through, to just slow her breathing down. She didn’t use the patches much as she didn’t want ‘another psychological thing’ to get over. She now works as an ‘ambassador’ for the smoking cessation group, and has just done some training for ASH Scotland. She says that the group was ‘there’ when she needed it. This in itself is ‘beyond’ what she thought she would ‘do in her life’. She is really proud of herself even though she is a big advocate of smokers’ rights and doesn’t think it’s fair to demonize what they are doing.
Judith is now going to the gym, and has increased her lung function slightly. She has stopped her condition getting worse and is managing it. She now takes more pride in her appearance, in her house and ‘so many different things’. She has had mixed interactions with health professionals since she gave up, and feels that many people put everything down to smoking. She thought that one doctor didn’t give her any credit for giving up smoking. Judith feels that when she was suffering with mental health problems she ‘wasn’t ready to do anything like stopping smoking’. She went to anxiety management courses and felt she needed this ‘almost terminal’ diagnosis to contemplate giving up smoking. She talks about smoking Silk Cut as she thought they were ‘better’. She tried smoking roll ups as they were ‘more hassle’ and therefore she would give up more easily. Now Judith says she has better colour, no cough, no anxiety, and her teeth have also improved, as have her taste buds. Immediately after stopping she felt worse than before, but now she feels great. She now judges that she is listened to more seriously as a non-smoker when she goes for treatment to hospital. She feels that giving up both cannabis and cigarettes at once is a ‘double hurdle’ but does think it’s a personal thing. Now she feels very happy and is really pleased with the place she has got to with her physical and her mental health.
Judith thought she had a ‘smoker’s cough’ but was diagnosed with asthma and emphysema at the age of 32.
Judith thought she had a ‘smoker’s cough’ but was diagnosed with asthma and emphysema at the age of 32.
And that really upset me, because there was nothing I could do about that. I mean obviously I could have given up smoking, but that was a huge thing that I was struggling to do. I just couldn’t even entertain it. I had tried to give up smoking in the past and it really compromised my mental health.
At first Judith wanted products to help her quit, but then decided she didn’t want to have to quit nicotine after she had given up smoking.
At first Judith wanted products to help her quit, but then decided she didn’t want to have to quit nicotine after she had given up smoking.
But I was also, at the smoking cessation they also gave me little bits of cut straw, just about that size and that was a really interesting thing as well, the fact that when you sucked on the straw, it was essentially, it wasn’t like a cigarette, but it slowed your breathing down, and it just reminded you of what it was like when you smoked, to just take that long breath and so that was really, really interesting for me, is the fact that I could have it in my hand, and I could drive with it, in my, you know, between my fingers and suck on it, and realise that it was slowing my breathing down, and that in itself relaxes of course, just taking note of, just breathing you know, but deeper and a bit slower.
So when I stopped for the two days I hadn’t touched the inhalator. I put the patch on and but I’d got through those two days. And then I thought nicotine stays in my system for 24 hours, it was so psychological for me, why was I still feeding myself with the nicotine? I know it’s so different for everybody, but for me, I just thought, why am I doing this. I didn’t want to get to the end of twelve weeks and have another psychological thing where I was thinking “Right I’ve only achieved this because I’ve had a patch on and then I’m going to take a patch off, I know it goes down in strength but I’m still not going to have anything”. And that initial major confidence and ability to stop would have been 12 weeks prior to that. So was I going to get into a position where that in itself could just start me smoking again? So I made an informed decision that I was just going to take it off and I never looked back.
Judith went to a smoking cessation group and found others there understood what she was going through. [TEXT ONLY]
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I think the one-to-one session’s great. But I think ultimately you do need to eventually go into the group session for it to be completely a rounded experience and a helpful experience. Everybody is there with the same goal, but with different journeys. You can always get somebody who has felt one of your symptoms, and potentially you can always help someone else out because of one of your experiences. It’s, I still say to this day, it’s the only place that really understands, because if you are giving up smoking, they are too. If you have given up smoking there’s somebody there that has. And they understand how difficult it has been with the journey that’s led to that. On the outside you have, generally, two main types of people. There’s the non smokers who will never understand what it’s like to have given up smoking. To have achieved that. It’s the biggest thing I’ve ever done in life. And people, one friend in particular said, “That’s not true, you know, and you managed to do a psychology course when you weren’t very well.” Or whatever. But that just doesn’t even come close to giving up smoking.
Judith noticed small changes in her lifestyle as a non-smoker, such as staying in the theatre during an interval. [TEXT ONLY]
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The respiratory doctor told Judith that she would be struggling for breath in three years if she carried on smoking, but that he knew she would not stop. This made her take notice.
The respiratory doctor told Judith that she would be struggling for breath in three years if she carried on smoking, but that he knew she would not stop. This made her take notice.
And I know that they generally have a job to do and that they have to tell you to stop smoking and it’s a really difficult one in that respect. But we, as smokers, we don’t listen. It’s like talking to a brick wall as if we haven’t heard it time and time again.
So this respiratory consultant saying, you won’t give up, was like a breath of fresh air. I just thought, you really know. You do know how difficult it is. And the likelihood of me being able to give up. And then he followed it by saying, “You’re going to be in the ward in three years, struggling for breath, and I could essentially book you a bed now. But as I say, I know you won’t give up, so that will be a certainty.”
That was a shock but I still appreciated the fact that he wasn’t trying to make me stop smoking against my, my ability at that point, I went away from that. I was really upset, because essentially what he was saying was, three years from now, you’re going to be struggling for breath, it’s a terminal disease, if I don’t change my lifestyle.
I then, I guess, I was looking to others to make me stop. And it wasn’t me who was giving up. I wanted other people to sort me out. I even started looking at rehab clinics for drugs, because I was so aware that to me, it was as devastating as being a heroin addict. I couldn’t, it was an addiction, it was completely an addiction and I so wanted to stop it, but just didn’t know how, I was going to stop it, because I tried so much and it had just been so draining.
Judith was frustrated by a surgeon’s dismissive reaction to the news that she had given up smoking, when it had been very hard for her.
Judith was frustrated by a surgeon’s dismissive reaction to the news that she had given up smoking, when it had been very hard for her.
Judith thinks that some people who still smoke can try to undermine your quit attempts in subtle and less subtle ways. "It’s important not to be discouraged if you relapse – just try again!”. [TEXT ONLY]
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Everyone’s journey is so different, but the one thing that you’ve got in common is if you want to do it, you will do it no matter what has gone before, and I think it’s dangerous to say that you’ve tried it before and you managed for six months and then you started again, and so not count the six months as being a non smoker, you have to forget about that previous time. You’re a non smoker from the time, the day that you stop, and you should take that, that achievement on board every single day. And yes, when, you know, you know, you might be aware when six months come up, but you’re not living with life exactly the same again. It’s a different time. It’s a different, it’s a different weather outside. It’s a different person whose in your house at that moment. There’s so many different things, that add to it, just be good to yourself with it, definitely.
Judith associated different cigarette brands with different types of people. [TEXT ONLY]
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So they were kind of you know, your working class kind of cigarette and then you had, and Super Kings and that kind of thing. And they were for people who really potentially couldn’t afford good quality cigarettes. And I suppose the Regal, the Silk Cut, the Benson & Hedges were sort of middle class. They were quality, you know, cigarette, and then you had the more, the kind of upper class cigarettes which was your menthols and that was for people who really were just playing at it, for the, you know, they weren’t getting a taste of nicotine and things like that. I don’t know this is a personal thing for me.
It’s interesting.
Yes, it’s interesting, it really is interesting actually, looking at it now. I realised though actually towards the end I was smoking roll ups and they were like even, you know, as far as I was concerned years ago, they were like the lowest of the low, you know, they were your stained finger crew, and yes, but it’s just, it was just “not done”. But a cigarette, they keep piling on the money, the tax, it was more cost effective.
Judith thinks it’s a fallacy that nicotine is a relaxant. She used to plan carefully when to have her cigarettes but now realises she mainly smoked out of boredom or habit.
Judith thinks it’s a fallacy that nicotine is a relaxant. She used to plan carefully when to have her cigarettes but now realises she mainly smoked out of boredom or habit.
But there’s so much in life that we never let that get to the point of, we’re always there worrying about it. It’s a fallacy that it’s a relaxant, because the only reason it relaxes you, is because you’ve got to the point where you’re really needing it, either psychologically or as a chemical reaction. And it’s only through being free of it that I realise I’m so chilled out these days and that was part of my mental health was anxiety and not having to constantly second guess when I was going to get my cigarette. Who I was going to visit, because could I smoke in their house, could I not smoke in their house? Were they four flights up? Was it an intimate dinner part or gathering where it was going to be really obvious if I suddenly got up and walked out to have a cigarette it just, it takes over your life. It used to make me late for things. Because I’d think well I had one five minutes ago, but I could probably just squeeze one in before I leave. And of course I could squeeze one in before I left, time wise I did. I crow bared it in, so that I could have that extra one. But again it didn’t do any more for me, having a second one.
Judith worried about the risks of smoking stronger varieties of cannabis. Quitting cannabis and cigarettes together is a ‘double hurdle’.[TEXT ONLY]
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But it’s got me to where I am now. I wouldn’t regret it. I’m sad it happened, but I had to go through that journey to get out the other side and to get so amazingly happy. Just palpably happy. It’s, I just didn’t ever think I could get to this point in my mental health journey as well as my physical health journey. With the bridges that I’ve kind of come across. And yes, it’s all possible