My memory. Was absolutely, I’ve always had a good memory. I’ve been able to remember phone numbers, names, addresses, all kinds of, just the information of daily life. And I couldn’t remember words. I couldn’t remember where I was supposed to be. I had to start writing everything down. I thought it was stress. I thought it was because of losing mum and dad and that, that it would come back.

And in fact it has come back a bit better but that’s mainly because I’ve been studying so I’ve been making myself remember stuff because I’ve been having to take three hour exams and things. Really had to concentrate. And now I’m approaching 60 and it is better but I said to my husband the other day, I’m really worried about the fact that I start a sentence and I can’t remember what I was going to say And that I find really quite worrying and whether that is a hormonal thing or whether that is a result of coming off the HRT I really don’t know or whether it’s the beginning of something to do with getting much older. I don’t know.

Because I work in Oxfordshire, I have a group of very brilliant academic women as patients and they are much more worried about the mental side effects of the menopause. They actually don’t care so much what they look like or whether they’re having hot flushes but they really care that they can’t remember a reference to a mediaeval history paper that they knew just like that or the numbers of their children’s mobile phones any more or their own telephone number. And we do know that there is some short term memory difficulties as you’re going through the menopause that appear to get better, hopefully, after the menopause. And it’s not clear, I mean there are some tests showing that oestrogen does actually help your mental function at this point. Also, because you’re having hot flushes at night, your sleep is disturbed and so when your sleep is disturbed you feel tired and dreadful and so you’re more stressed so you have more hot flushes and you go into this very negative cycle of thinking, I really can’t stand this. I must get some help And that’s usually when people come in and talk to us.

The memory is really bad. I mean just this morning I picked up the credit card, thought I’d put it in the tea [room] and went to look for it, couldn’t find it and had to call one of the staff members to come and look. So yeah, the memory is getting affected. I go upstairs and you can’t remember what you’ve gone upstairs for. And I’ve got two children and I can’t remember their names. I call them vice versa names. And I notice sometimes when you’re talking you can’t remember what you were going to say next and you go um, er, er, er, e and then it comes back to you. Yeah.

And that started pretty much when your periods stopped did it?

Yeah, I noticed it more, I call them my granny moments and I run upstairs and I call Ah, you grann.

My memory now that is the one thing, memory. Terrible. Oh, I mean I know probably as you go on, as you get older your memory isn’t as good anyhow but oh, my memory is just shot to pieces. I don’t remember, I mean at times I worry about will I be able to continue working because my memory’s so bad. And just I never remember. I mean I suppose it’s a generational thing. My son’s always going, I told you that I think, I know you did But I don’t remember he’s told me, I think, Well, I know you did but I can’t retain that sort of information I don’t lose words. People say they lose the words for things. Now that hasn’t, as yet, happened to me but it’s my memory generally.

So how does it affect you?

I have to write everything down in work. If somebody says, if you phoned me this morning and said, Jenny will be in to see you at 2 oclock At 2 oclock somebody will phone me and say, Jenny’s in to see you And I go, Oh, I completely forgot she was coming Things like that or my son would say, I’m working [da da da] this week And I wouldn’t remember. I mean I would know that he’d told me and I even make a mental effort now to try and remember it because I know he’ll go, I told you that alread. But it’s those sort of things that I forget. I wouldn’t remember details, like I mean obviously I have a lot of keeping up to date with tax and things like that and I would read articles and it used to be I’d read them and they’d go in and I’d remember about them but now I sort of think, I think I read something somewhere about that Whereas before even if I didn’t remember the exact details, I would remember where I’d seen it and be able to lay my hands on it. it’s things like that which, as I say, I don’t know whether that’s the menopause or whether that’s just getting older anyhow.

So what effect does it have on your job do you think?

Probably none really so far. it’s just that I’m more aware of it and when I forget things and I think, How could I forget that? Is my memory that bad And that just makes me start to think if I can forget that, is it going to start affecting my job. So far I’m not aware of it doing so apart from having to write everything down and where I phone somebody and I say, Okay, I’ll do that for you And then I get another phone call straight away before I’ve had time to write it down, I have to remember and I’m like the next day think, I didn’t do that But, so far there have been no disasters.

I do have moments as well when I’m scatty. I don’t know if that’s a combination of it but I go a bit scatty. I forget what I’m saying or forget what I’m doing and yes, so those are my moments. Yeah and it’s exactly the same as what my mum went through.

it’s strange, I don’t know if it’s just us, but for instance, you’ve come to the checkout, you’ve bought your shopping, the totals fifteen pounds. I might say ten and I look and I can see fifteen there or I say numbers backwards. I just laugh, customers know me. I’m always laughing and I think that’s just to hide the embarrassment really because I’m thinking, What am I doing

It seems like everything kind of disintegrates but the worse thing is the memory. It is the worst thing. The lack of concentration, the appalling inability to remember people’s faces and names, forgetting appointments. I was running a two million pound operation I couldn’t afford to forget a thing. So, I developed coping strategies but if you’ve always had a really sharp memory it’s extremely hard to admit.

What sort of strategies did you come up with to help?

Notes, all the time. Notebook, notebook. All the time notebook. If ever I said to somebody, Oh, I’ll send you one of thos or let me get in touch with you and talk to you about such and suc or I’ll ring you and we’ll make an appointmen I would, the first moment, I would even disappear into the loo to do it. I would go into the loo, get my notebook out and write send such and such to Fred or ring Jean to fix an appointment to meet John. It was the only thing I could do. It was absolutely impossible. And I developed the electronic diary as being an important thing with massive numbers of reminders that come up which say do such and such, buy such and such, go to such and such.

Yeah, I mean you forget, it’s normal to forget some things but if I started feeling, Oh, hang on a minute And then people were saying, Well, I told you that yesterday And I thought, No, I’ve forgotten that And so now as I said, I have to write things down otherwise it goes in there and out there and it’s not maintaining in here. So I don’t know whether, and then you start thinking, Oh God, I’m going senile Or it’s the start of something else and then sitting down and speaking to somebody else regarding their problems with the menopause you think, Well, hang on a minute. That’s the same So I’m not going mad or anything else and then getting the little coping strategies on how to, like writing things down and making sure you’ve got your pad, and you write things. And especially with my boss, you’ll write three pages but then you turn the page and you forget what’s on there so you have to keep on going back and saying, today’s date is, and this is what I’ve got to achieve today.

The forgetfulness isn’t helpful but I’m not sure that that’s necessarily menopausal. I think that’s partly an age thing and words. As I’ve just said, using the wrong words and forgetting words but because now I’ve worked with these people for quite a few years and we are all having the same problems we fill in the blanks for each other without missing a beat. And post-it notes come in really handy. they’re stuck all over the place at work.

Yeah, I would say loss of memory, I mean I’m absent minded. But I’ve found doing my degree helped enormously. So I found I was much more focused when I was doing that. And also I was concerned about revising for exams and but I found I probably had to work harder than I would have done twenty years ago but no, I did very well in my exams in the end but I worked really hard. Actually I used to go to revision classes whereas I probably wouldn’t have needed to in my youth. And now I do crosswords and I find if I’m doing sort of mental exercises then my memory’s better but I am absent-minded. I mean I can lose car keys or the front door keys or forget things so yes, I would say that is quite noticeable. Or I’ll put things away or not remember where I’ve put them.