So then you had the opportunity of this trial. What was it called, the trial?
This is the, TeloVac trial, where they are using a vaccine. And it’s being run by Liverpool University and Liverpool Royal Infirmary. And they have hospitals around the country who are outreach hospitals, where you can go for treatment.
So when did you start on that?
In August of 2007. I started off with two weeks of chemotherapy and then went on to the vaccine. And initially the vaccine was, there was three vaccines a week, and then it w-, s-, went down to one vaccine a week, and then down to one a month.
How was the vaccine given to you?
It was into the skin in the stomach. It had to be done very carefully and in a particular way, not too deep, not too shallow. And, but that was, that was fine.
And how long did all that go on for?
I became the longest surviving patient, and I, I was on the vaccine for eighteen months. And it was during that time that I ran the New York marathon.
Were you having chemotherapy at the same time?
I was having this, no, I was having the vaccine. There were other arms of the, of the trial where some of the patients were having chemotherapy and the vaccine, and then some like me were just having the vaccine.
So you had some chemotherapy initially?
Two weeks, yes,
And then the vaccine?
For how long?
Well, for, for eighteen months in my case. After eighteen months the CT scan showed that the tumour was growing. So we then presumed that the vaccine wasn’t working any more. So there was no point in carrying on with it. So after then I went on to chemotherapy.
So what date are we at now?
I’ve been on chemotherapy now for a year.
So that was a different, was that a different sort of chemotherapy that you started?
No, it was the same chemotherapy that I started on initially. Yes, gemcitabine, capecitabine.
So you had some chemotherapy, then the vaccine trial that went on for eighteen months?
Yes, yes, two weeks of chemotherapy, and then, yes, the vaccine, which w-, would go on for as long as the patient was finding it useful. In my case it was eighteen months, yes.
Were there any side effects of the vaccine?
No, it was brilliant. And you turned up once a month, so it didn’t intrude into your life really at all. And, and the side effects, I don’t remember there being any side effects at all.