And do you know the results of these tests?

Yes with-, without explanation though
Okay.

hich I would say would, they should do. But they’re, Everything is norma. Yeah, okay, normal for them but which norm-?’ They had graphs as well, so I went back myself, researched it, looked up and what it means, my subcutaneous fat, there’s my visceral fat plus my bone density, yeah.

The feedback is the bigger thing that, as I say, again and maybe more written stuff I understand will be hard for the admin to do too much paperwork but just copy some of the end results maybe in a few lines in a summary, drop it back to the parents, drop it back.

I think some of the people who do do the research should be coming from the family categories as well.

In what way?

In like a lot of people are youngster that are sitting there doing the research, but they don’t know what it actually happening. It would be nice to have a mixture of all abilities. Have some mothers on the research team as well; have some fathers; have some young people there as well. Does that make sense? Rather than making a research team out of just professionals/students or you are good in that? Develop the skills in them and they will be more empathy, understanding the research as well, understanding the person, so they will realise why they come out rather than just say, Oh collecting data, like ten, twenty, forty, fifty people, that’s the answer, that’s it.

So do you think there should be people from the community involved in
Yes.

ctually running the research?

As well, yeah.

But again, they should be upskilled. I’m not saying just pick anybody up [laughs]. Train them. Give them the training to understand [laughs].

Yeah, drugs and the other part I also mention, all the surgery is very good. They save so many lives. I had five caesarean myself and I did try all the naturopath, natural way to give birth and all this and I think surgeries are very, very, very, what do you call achievement medicine has done, you know, developing all this way of operating keyhole surgeries, all this quite interesting. So, I would say all medical science is not right. Just far as concerned by the drugs, yes, I am. I would not put so much drugs in anybody’s body because we know the body has a way of healing itself. Some bodies harder, takes longer, people are more susceptible. Again, it’s environmental factor but go back to nature as much as we can. We will have less plastic waste, less ozone, you know, less carbon dioxide problem because back that time people used to use banana leaves, you know, to use recyclable, like, doing something simple rather than high tech.

Mm, so you think medical research should be more interested in this kind of way of

Yeah, the resourcing, environmental friendly and go back into nature.

We are all like building blocks of society, so we have a like a triangle, right, so most of the information should, is coming from the foundation people and people like yourself or doctors/professors, they are in the hierarchies. They will overlook it, but they have not all the answers unless you connect with the people at the bottom, so which is myself, mothers, children, parents, grandparents. I think that’s why it’s very important that the research team works closely with the population because at the end you will solve us, you will solve our problems. You will help us to understand future diseases, future problems so that’s why I believe research is a very good thing.

I understood why they did the DEXA scan to see the subcutaneous fat, visceral fat, so I was happy to go along because it’s interesting for me to know as well what’s happening inside of me.

But that way I felt happy it was really straight forward that they could check my blood test; they could check my blood pressure; they could check my weight; they could check my fat inside me and the bone density, so actually was a good thing for me, yeah.

So again, being a dedicated Muslim and I always believe in serving mankind. So, it was not only a selfish thing or thinking, giving back to the community as well. So, if maybe my understanding, my, because I could speak, I could understand. If some mothers can’t speak but they have the same thing happening in their houses and with their health, it’s maybe through me, through my work or my impact, I can help feedback for the person’s wellbeing as well. So if the research find out something, it will also benefit directly the, my next door neighbour, my sister in law, my daughter later on in life. So that was think as well, so really giving back into the community, the work.