Do you mind talking again about the time that you and your wife decided it was better for you to come into the nursing home?

Well, it’s, it’s OK, go, go ahead with that but anyway’ it was, it was me that decided in a way because I was watching her and she was getting thinner and thin every day and then she was worried about no being able to lift me and decided, ken, this can’t go on’ She says, she said, ‘I, my back might go when I’m lifting you’ which was, could true enough. I said, I said, ‘Well’, I said, ‘You’ve been bothered with your back for ages. She said, ‘Aye but anyway’ that was alright and, and she said, ‘Well, I’ll tell the doctor’ and it was him that actually got me here. [My GP]. He said, ‘I’ll, I’ll look for a place for you’ and this is the place he got.

With the speech therapy, did they get you to practise saying things?

Oh no, they didn’t, they didn’t but… they tried right enough but I couldn’t say them but I think now I think I could, right enough, could go back and say them now if I wanted.

But what happened at the time?

They couldn’t, they couldn’t make us out what I was saying, so that was, that was just thrown aside.

You couldn’t make them understand what you wanted?

That’s right, yeah. I couldn’t.

And was that difficult? How did that make you feel?

I, it didn’t help me anyway but… and it was just no being able to let, explain to them right. I haven’t, I haven’t explain things to them but they explain things to me and I couldn’t answer them.

How did that make you feel?

It made us feel rotten all together. I couldn’t get, do nothing about it really.

Was that generally with health professionals or was it just the speech therapists?

It was the speech therapist. Aye.

Can you tell me about the catheter now? Do you mind talking about that?

Aye, oh, it’s OK. But it didn’t always work because often the beds damp after a wee while and I say to the nurses the other day I said, ‘Are you not getting fed up with me here?’, they said, ‘We don’t get fed up [laughs] ‘That’s what we are paid for’ so that was OK cos you, you feel guilty about wetting the bed and things like that but it wasn’t my fault really because it was the way that the catheter was on, I think. It was because once I had a long tube on it to take the water, the tank sits on the floor, to let you understand, so you have a length’

You have something that goes, when you go to sleep, do you have something that sits on the floor?

Aye. Mm hmm.

And were you worried it was leaking?

I was worried I was leaking before sometimes. It went into the long tube and that’s what got me you see. Anyway, it was the way, maybe I was lying on the top of it, I don’t know but, the tube, you know, that wasn’t too good but that’s what I think. I think, I think maybe I was squeezing the tube and it couldn’t get through, ken. Anyway, well forget about that I think.

So you were saying about how the strokes affected you emotionally?

Well’I was’ one time I was at a Christmas meeting where the minister was singing songs andhe came out with a song, song that I couldn’t just bear for him to sing it. And you know what it was? It was’ I can’t mind what it was now that, that one with’ I can’t just think what it was.

How did it make you feel when he was singing it?

I just told him stop because I couldn’t listen any longer and it was nothing wrong there ‘Oh’ he said, ‘You’re not the only one that happens to. ‘But’, I said, ‘Well’, I said, ‘You can go, you can go ahead now and I’ll try and have a cry. But I actually cried. And he was singing this song anyway but I just couldn’t bear it. And it really was’ it wasn’t nothing to cry about either but I couldn’t help it.

Do you find that with other things that, that suddenly upset you for no reason?

Oh yes. There was other things and it would start the same way likely but it has, I was at a wedding once and it was the same thing there. They started and I just, I couldn’t do nothing about it.

Do you understand that that’s part of having a stroke?

Aye. That maybe came with the stroke, you see.

Has anybody explained that to you?

No. Nothing, never.