Why do you think? What has helped you?

Because if you have faith and obviously if something happens, you’ve got to accept nature. This is nature. You’ve got to help yourself and nature will help you but if you sit tight, then you haven’t got a chance. So I go myself, my mind, no, it shouldn’t happen to me. It can happen but at least it has happened so I have to fight this battle myself. This fight is what I do my will to live, my will to do something. That’s why I’m here. Other than that, I don’t think I could have made it.

When you said if you have faith, do you mean religious faith?

Yes.

And that has made the difference?

That makes a lot of difference, yes.

And are there religious people who have been in any way involved in?

Oh yeah. When I was, when I was in hospital, they used to come there, a lot of people used to come there, encourage you, encourage you, as preacher, you know that they do.

Yeah, yeah. They, they had to, the nurses, they brought me home in, with a, a wheelchair. They had, later on, they came and took the wheelchair away when they realised that I was alright because they were visiting me all the time. All the time. And when I was, I was able to walk around they sent me the nurse who used to come here, a young man, and used to go out with me to ride in a bus and see the peoples reaction. So every morning they used to come and we take 76 bus, just sit down, we sit down with me and we talking and see how people react to people with a situation like me because some of them when you go and sit near them, they don’t want to know. Ooooh, I shift away from you. You feel so embarrassed but you know you are sick, it wasn’t like that before, so you don’t care and the, the nurse wants to ride with me and every morning they come and take me and we go for a bus ride to get my confidence back and I did indeed. I owe him a lot. So they did help me.

And so now do you go out and go on the bus on your own?

Yeah, I do, yeah. I do it without my stick unless I go somewhere, then I will take it but I don’t, I don’t even use the stick now.

It could happen to anybody but it’s up to you to fight it when it comes because if you don’t, if it comes and you don’t decide, because I had a chap who was my friend in the hospital, I didn’t know him until we met in hospital and because he was ill, he didn’t even want to go to the loo or he want the nurses to help ever time ‘Nurse nurse things like that, you’re not helping yourself. So when hes shouting nurse, I said, ‘Why don’t you?’ he said, ‘I can’t, [name], I can’t. I said, ‘Try. You’re like me but when you try to go, want to use the loo’ and he say, ‘But you fall down. You see. But if you don’t help yourself, I don’t think you, whatever medication they give you, they can’t help you. Only self believe that because he can’t do this, he can’t do that, don’t have to bring tea to him all the time. You understand what I mean? So you have to fight it yourself. That’s what I meant over there. It helped me a lot.