Now the sad truth is everyone puts on weight, even my dog has put on weight now she’s had a hysterectomy. And the average weight gain in the menopause is two kilos and I certainly notice I put on weight much more easily than I did. I think one’s metabolism really does change although there’s very annoyingly little data on this but again that’s just a little prod to make us be healthier, perhaps take a bit more exercise, a little bit less carbohydrate, make sure our calcium is good and stay fit, slim, beautiful and healthy.

So has the weight gain got to do with losing oestrogen? Is that why we put on weight?

I think it must. But the other thing you’ll notice is your shape actually changes. it’s not so much overall weight but sadly, we go from being Marilyn Monroe, well, I never had a Marilyn Monroe figure but the hourglass Victorian sort of breasts going in at the hips, sorry, breasts, going in at the waist, out at the hips, Marilyn Monroe or hourglass figure of a nubile, fertile woman goes and your breasts shrink and your hips shrink and your legs shrink but your tummy gets bigger. Your tummy falls out so you sort of go from looking like Marilyn Monroe to looking like a toffee apple on a stick. And that’s somewhat depressing and one has to work very hard to keep one’s tummy in and diet accordingly.

Weight, I seem to be putting on weight and I don’t have a lot of chocolate or crisps or anything like that. I have quite a balanced diet, in fact I probably don’t eat enough because of my lifestyle but I do find that I am putting on weight particularly around my midriff, nowhere else it just seems to be all coming onto my stomach and I’ve tried exercise, I’ve tried really monitoring my food but I’ve noticed that I call it like the fifties stomach and it starts to come from underneath your breast bone and just kind of just permanently looking like you’re four months pregnant.

And does that bother you?

Yeah, I think it does bother me because everyone wants to be trim but if I was over eating I would say Oh, well it’s because I’m over eatin but it is just the feeling of not having any control over it because you’re trying not to overeat and you’re trying to live a kind of healthy life and it’s still getting bigger, it’s a bit frustrating.

Well, just that loss of the youthfulness and I suppose being gay I like my kind of almost gamine type and this is very personal to me. I like my almost androgynous look. When I put on weight there was no denying my womanness, that was me. This is me. This is a gay woman talking and a woman who enjoyed looking kind of boyish, thin, young all of that. So that to lose, to kind of put on weight that was the first thing and just feeling not as physically fit because I would be quite a physical type person and I would have enjoyed sports and all the rest. So I kind of let myself go a little bit. There was a wee bit of that I should of kept up that sort of thing. Whereas instead I think I began to adopt behaviours that were just not good for me. As I say, eating too much, maybe drinking too much, not exercising as much as I should have, doing things that were because I was more preoccupied with the way I felt. I let and then as a result my physical and one impacted on the other. The heavier I got the more down I got about that, the more down I got the more I ate and drank, the more I ate and drank, so that there was a bit of a cycle there. There was a bit of a cycle of that kind of destructive behaviour type stuff. That our lifestyle stuff that I can see then was no good for me and I’ve come out of that and can look back and see that I’m in a place where I want to change and improve all of that.

I’m two stone overweight and I mean some say, Well, it’s a mixture of your thyroid and the menopause as well But the joking matter, trying to cope with it in a light-hearted way is everything’s going south. But it doesn’t help when having had an emergency c-section as well I’ve got an overhang of stomach and you just feel absolutely grotty. I’m going on holiday in five weeks time to Benidorm for five days and now I brought out my shorts yesterday to try on, which fitted me last year, and I don’t scoff and I’ve been on diets and I’m on the Wii fit and keeping occupied and get fit, and I burst into tears because none of them fit. And even a size sixteen didn’t fit. So it just seems to have expanded even more and not knowing the reason for and then you just say, Oh well, it’s your time of life and you expand So it’s harder to lose. Put it that way.

Have you talked to the doctor about it?

I have. He said, You’re within a limit. We’ve taken a cholesterol and the cholesterols okay But he said it’s just one of the problems that again he, it’s just one of the problems of menopause.

But more often than not they’ll say well, it’s a mixture and we can’t block things off or allocate blame to different things and plus as you get older you do gain weight because your metabolism is slowing down and everything else and I’m thinking, I just want my life back and I want to feel good about myself And I’m going through all these hot flushes and night sweats and everything else. Night sweats, I would think I would lose buckets of weight and it doesn’t happen. You’ve still got your cellulite and your overhang and your lumpy bits and everything else and you call them your wobbly bits but they’re not very nice in a swimming costume. So you’ve gone then from a bikini to swimming costume, to swimming costume with tummy control. And breathe in girls but it’s mad. It really is mad. And it doesn’t help when people say, Oh, you don’t look overweight Or anything else but I know. I said, You don’t see me first thing in the morning looking in the mirror. I do

it’s certainly much more difficult to lose weight, absolutely. I think it’s stubborn. So again, your body image doesn’t fit in with what we’re told we should look like in films or whatever. So you’re left a bit disappointed with your own body image. There’s only the Dove one perhaps which might celebrate older women but apart from that you’re just often you feel like you’re at society with your nose pressed up against the window. That you used to be in that shop. You might have been actually in the window as window dressing. You’re no longer window dressing.

I think the main thing is in partly you can discard having to dress up and attract men. That’s a big plus. You can actually dress for yourself and although that’s like saying a conflict with wanting to be attractive but it’s not to attract, the attraction I want to have is not to attract men. I just want to feel attractive as a person. It isn’t to attract the opposite sex like it might have been when I were younger. So perhaps that is a bonus that you can dress to please yourself and in a way feel comfortable in your own skin but still that conflict’s there. It never seems to go away, that loss because that’s the only way I can term it, as a bereavement.

At that particular time in my life it was all around the fact that I was no longer going to be able to have children, now it’s more along the lines of Gosh the wrinkles and things are coming along much faster now than they ever di. I’ve always been a little bit vain I suppose in that I’ve always been told that I don’t necessarily look my age and I don’t think that I did whereas I think in the last couple of years going through the menopause suddenly I’m starting to find a) I look my age but b) I actually feel my age now too, which I didn’t use to. And that’s all quite difficult to come to terms with.

Oh yes, I’ve spent many many pounds over the years. I have to say I think they’re brilliant for keeping your skin nice and soft brilliant for that feel good factor. The reality is once the lines and wrinkles start to come in, I’ve tried all sorts of creams at all sorts of prices and none of them have banished any lines or wrinkles that I’ve accumulated. What they do do is they soften them and they make me feel better, I’ve learnt to buy the ones that I particularly like that smell nice, that make me feel good when I put them on. But none of them are going to get rid of the lines and wrinkles. I have to look at those as, That’s what I’ve acquired through my life, each one tells its own story, quite a few stories have been told in the last five year and I put it down to life experience. But yes I still follow a good skincare routine. I do think it’s important. I do cleanse, tone and moisturise twice a day. I don’t go to bed with my makeup on. And I think that’s had again a benefit for my skin over the years.

Oh that is one thing actually that does get me, the hair. The fact that my hair was black and now it’s not. It sort of fades a bit before it greys, it goes quite faded and you just think but I did like my hai. It was kind of if I stood with the light behind me in a disco I was a red head because there was so much red in my hair but it was this beautiful glossy black and that is one thing I do regret the fact that as you get older your hair colouring does change and of course your face skin tone changes with it as well. But that’s probably not as noticeable as the fact that the hair is changing.

So is that your natural colour that you have now?

This is much lighter than my natural colour, mostly, I do give it a little help because it, I think once it’s got to the stage of being all white, that’ll be fine but at the moment it’s not, so I will carry on giving it an occasional rinse just to brighten it up slightly.

I think I’m ready to go grey, that’s a big thing for me somehow about colouring my hair. I’m fed up of colouring my hair and I know that it would immediately make me look ten years older. So there’s something very physical and kind of stereotypical and immediate about that aspect of my appearance, that’s kind of an issue for me.

I don’t know, but at this age your body starts to deteriorate, and all the bad things just start coming out so you are not young and strong. There are some people who are 40 years old and look very old, like grandmothers, and there are people who are 70 who are really fit and healthy, so everybody is different.

You were talking about the body deteriorating, how do you feel about getting older?

How do I feel about getting older?

Yes, you talked about the body deteriorating
Deteriorating? I get tired easily now, the bones just seem a bit stiffer, used to be very nimble, could just bend over to pick something up from the floor, but now it’s really difficult. I just feel really tired.

I think they examined me, I can’t remember very much about the examination, I think they probably did some kind of scan but I can’t really remember what and then they did the bone scan and found that I had some deterioration, the bone density wasn’t what it should be for my age. And that’s when they suggested that I might go onto HRT, especially as I was quite young to have had the menopause.

What did they tell you about HRT at that stage?

I really can’t remember what I was told by them and what I read myself because I did read about it quite a lot and I really can’t remember which is which. I think they were pretty good about it, they gave me quite a lot of information including possible risks. But although I wasn’t really very happy about taking it, they did say that I really should because of the bone density because they said that I’d have reasonable bones for much longer because they said if you were much older we might think twice about it because looking at the sort of prospective length of life you’ve got left but they said at your age then really you want to keep good bones for as long as possible. Which all sounded like good advice really.

And all the rest of us who are going through the menopause need to look at our bones and there is a brilliant website, the National Osteoporosis website, Stay Healthy, and we know that actually the menopause is a very good time in our lives because it’s a time when women are open to changing their lifestyle for a healthier one.

Even I’ve started exercising and eating better and so it’s a great time to lose weight, if you’re slightly overweight, to gain weight, if you’re underweight, because you need a BMI of around 20 to 24, because if you’re too thin and scrawny you’ve got a risk of osteoporosis. To stop smoking, smokers have an earlier menopause, that’s why they’re all wrinkly and old than the rest of us. Unfortunately, reduce your alcohol intake because one of the sad things the Million Women Study showed that if you regularly drink two or more units a day you double your risk of breast cancer and that received no publicity at all. It was all headlines on Radio Four about HRT but an equal risk of alcohol never got that publicity and I think certainly a lot of women seem to drink a lot more than they used to. And I think that’s very important. Similarly, obesity doubles your risk of breast cancer and again that got very little publicity. So you can actually lower your risk of breast cancer by healthy eating, healthy exercise, being a healthy weight and not only does it reduce your risk of breast cancer but it improves your mental wellbeing. It improves your bones because we know that twenty minutes exercise a day, weight bearing, so carrying the shopping back from the Co-op, improves your bone density, reduces the risk of osteoporosis and also helps your cardiovascular system. So it really ticks all the boxes.

Have you made any changes to your diet and lifestyle?

Ah, no. I don’t think I have really. I eat the same, because I eat well and I probably shouldn’t drink quite as much as I do but that’s one of the pleasures of life isn’t it with friends especially. So no I don’t think I’ve really made a lot of difference.

Exercise?

Exercise, we lost our last dog five years ago and we’d had her for a good fifteen years and we had a bit of a break when we had lots of holidays and we just felt that we couldn’t replace her. But then a year ago we decided we needed to have another one for both our sakes, that we wanted to ensure that we got out every day and it’s a wonderful excuse and living here in the countryside and it’s marvellous so, yes we both get plenty of that exercise. I don’t swim a great deal. I have done pilates and I’m probably going back to that after Easter because there’s a class in the village. I’ve done belly dancing, but apart from that not a lot.

You got breast cancer in 2007?

Yes.

How was that diagnosed, I mean was it a routine scan?

Just a routine scan. Really important to turn up for your routine scans I think.
Had a routine scan, didn’t expect there to be anything wrong, because there never was and then I got the letter, come back for another appointment to [hospital name]. there’s probably nothing wrong but there was and when I saw the x-ray I couldn’t imagine how they could do anything other than remove the breast because it was like tiny little specks of white, it was like stars in a night sky really in all of the ducts so really there was nothing else they could do. But they were precancerous so I was very lucky again, if I hadn’t turned up for that scan it would have been an absolutely devastating illness I think.